Since my geforce 430 Gt decided to derp at such an early age, I'm stuck with my default geforce 9100, and I refuse to open my computer up ever again because trifels like these just blow up in my face.
Oh well, I guess it could be fun playing this at 10 fps.
Well yeah I was going to play everything while setting it to best performance, I mean, the graphics still look pretty amazing on the minimum, but I'm still rather upset about it, because I was playing using the card on medium, and everything looked 100x better.
I'm not holding my breath though, I can play games like Starcraft 2 and League of Legends on minimum, but not diablo 3(despite its pathetic graphics) so I dunno what's going to happen on guild wars.
well even worse news, something is making my games drop in FPS.
I first had this problem when i installed League of Legends, it comes with a pando booster or something, but anyway once i got rid of that, my games worked just fine. Now that same issue is happening again, probably from something I installed while I had my graphics card inside. And I don't even know what it is, whether if its the nvidia stuff that came with the card, or something completely different.
i. hate. life.
Computer tech issues are a pain - I totally understand. It is usually at the worst time as well. I am currently playing on an old GTX 280 which does fine on medium to high when there are no zergs.
If your only running games on this computer I would wipe your hard drive and just install the minimum of what you need to run GW2. Sure, reinstalling drivers takes a bit of time, but not near as much as trying to find the source of a slowdown. Unless someone could recommend some freeware to check for resource hogs. Sometimes a good look at your task manager can reveal the source of a slowdown while it is happening.
Well i found out something recently, and while i'm still in the process of testing things, so far so good.
Basically I hit start>use the search bar to search for msconfig
click it, and you should be in the general tab with startup selection. If your using "Selective startup" uncheck "load startup items" I've done this, and the results seem promising so far. Will update when possible.
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Alright so i reinstalled league of legends *which i assumed was the primary cause* and uninstalled pando immediately. Tried it, and still getting FPS issues.
I think its safe to confirm that Riot is Garbage since they constantly update Lol so only people with moderate cards can play it without drops. It is after I have those drops when my computer starts slowing down. the websites scroll slower, starcraft 2 and warcraft 3 go slower, Grief syndrome has random fps drops, and everything, (at least I assume is the cause) is because of Lol.
So yeah, deleted it, and hopefully I will not encounter any more problems.
Grats on figuring this out
okay are you sure I can run guild wars 2 with that geforce 9100? I've heard alot of other opinions that its so backward and I'll be in unplayable FPS.
is there anything, ANYTHING I can do to make it so that my geforce 430 gt would stop disconnecting the monitor and the pc? I. Need. Help. I am going crazy.
As for the problem with your card, here's what sounds like a similar problem with some suggestions on how to fix it.
First, that website never works for this computer. The java itself says its not a trusted source so I can't use it.
Second, what's with your second sentence? You didn't post anything after that.
It's linked in the sentence he posted - mouse over the middle. It is a bit hard to see.
i apologize, I couldn't see it in the first post. I see it in his re-post, ty.
EDIT: Yeah i saw that before, but since the forums are down, I can't get all the information out of it.
Well, since my toaster gave me a decent 20-30 fps during BWE3, I wouldn't worry too much. They seem to be doing a nice job with optimization: during BWE 1 I had about 10 fps.
Are you a guardian? Let me introduce you to my Flesh Golem, he's getting a bit hungry.
Okay mallow, I'll try my best to explain. Basically the story goes like this:
my PC is an HP, model p6310y, processor: AMD Athlon(TM) II X4 630
Windows 7 64 bit *though I think i have it set to 32-bit atm*
the monitor is an HP 2009m. Inches, i'm not sure. round 20-22.
I needed a card that fits my motherboard, and the geforce 430 gt came to mind from my brother. so he got it for me for my birthday, and I installed it. Everything was working fine, *fan was a bit loud, but kept the pc cool* though I do regret that a certain area of the computer remains to be open. *its a small, small rectangle that I had to open to fit the card in, I accidentally opened them all because i didn't know which to open.*
So anyway, the card was working fine, but there was this one time I was playing diablo 3, when the first time this error occurred. As I described, the monitor suddenly stopped receiving the signals from the PC, *DVI and VGA* that must be connected to the card to get a signal. So the monitor would just go to sleep, however the PC is still running. *I proved this at the last BWE. I remembered where my character was positioned, and when the error occurred i tried moving. When i re-loaded, my guy was in a different spot.*
This was the first time I got this error, but that error did not happen until months later, closing in at the BWE3. The signals began stopping again while playing guild wars 2, and at first I thought that was the case. However, it has started happening on league of legends, then starcraft 2, then microsoft word. Before I know it, its happening at complete random, even if I just leave the computer at the desktop.
At first I thought the problem was in the monitor. So I tried buying a new one, with an HDMI output. my card had one so I thought it would benefit from that. So i got the monitor, changed it with the HP 2009m, connected the hdmi with the card and the monitor, and things seemed to be going well again... then BAM. Different monitor, same error.
At this point I'm like, *kay its the card* so I took the other monitor back to the store, took out the card, and here I am. Right now I have the card in a plastic bag so it doesn't collect dust. My monitor has not had any of those issues. However, apparently I can't even play certain games due to random FPS drops. Probably something I installed while I had the card in, but I have no idea what exactly the resource culprit is.
Well, that's just about everything that's happened. Hope this was informative.
On an alternative note, I wouldn't mind some suggestions for a new card, *if its 100 bucks or under* that can run GW2 better, even if on minimum setting. I mean, I don't want to give up on the 430 gt just yet, but some alternative cards to suggest would be nice. *I just have to make sure they are compatible with my motherboard.
Just to make sure: this is the computer you are talking about, and everything you have on it right now is stock (except the video card correct?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01959720&cc=us&lc=e...
Edit: One reason I am asking is, because that thing only has a 300W Power Supply Unit...and the motherboard is a micro atx, which explains your space issues with cards. Is your case a micro form factor as well?
Also you want to be sure that:
1)Any upgrade cards won't be bottlenecked by your CPU or you motherboard bus speeds
2)Your upgrade will run on a 300 watt PSU..
Additionally
If you are running games now, but the card is in the bag, are you running with the onboard graphics or another card? If you are running with onboard graphics, FPS drops are no surprise. If you are running with an alternate card, and that card is having no issues it is for sure the other card. However, if you are running your computer with the onboard graphics, it does not rule out the possibility that your motherboard has a problem with its video port for the graphics card, or a possible problem with the power supply unit (PSU).
Not sure if this was your thread or not but..
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110329155612AAFcFw4
If the 430 runs on a 300 watt PSU minimum, that is a problem as well. If the PSU is struggling to power your machine + dealing with excessive heat due to small space and/or poor cooling it may be that you have 'burned out' the PSU for lack of a better word. This would explain the worsening of the problem over time. It may be that the PSU can no longer handle the load of the card and so it gets shut down, leaving the cpu and other hardware running. ALSO, if this were not enough. If your system is generating enough heat, some systems are designed to power down components when their temperature gets too high. Although if you are losing signal at idle/desktop this doesn't seem like the issue..although the constant shutdowns may have done some damage (not sure how many times this has happened).
Keep in mind I am being an extreme armchair computer troubleshooter. I am by no means and expert technician. I had problems with what I THOUGHT was the graphics card in my gaming rig in the past, and even had a technician come out and say it was the graphics card. Later I found out through another technician that the first technician was wrong..there was a short in the motherboard that manifested when things got hot. These things are hard to truly diagnose sometimes.
Well, by the looks of things, you hit the nail star. That's my exact PC, graphics card, watts and all. And yeah, I was using the onboard graphics, which at first it did indeed did okay, but ever since this crisis and the shutdowns, *at least 5 total, I'm sure i didn't go over 10* though sometimes I did a regular shutdown(pressing the button but not holding it down, letting all the data slowly turn off)
I've had this computer for... at least two years now (I don't remember exactly, but it was a month or two before starcraft 2 came out), so its no surprise if the watts do not run at its maximum power anymore.
So... I guess not even the card is the issue now... its the computer... the most expensive part...
I didn't really notice it overheating, like occasionally I would feel it and see if it was getting hot. Sometimes the fan was louder than usual, but never really became extremely loud.(It doesn't help that its summer.)
... >_<
Well, at least I'm getting valuable information, and I really appreciate it. Even if this may not be the case, the fact of the matter is its a possibility that I should look into, rather than placing the blame elsewhere inaccurately, because that won't make the problem go away.
Now then... I should probably mention this now: I have a laptop. Its also around two years old, *around then I got it methinks* but I've used it here and there, not too often, and never for gaming. *unless 8-bit gaming, but extremely rarely.* When I have a chance, I'll hop onto it and give the specs for that.
I wonder... maybe I can install the 430 gt card into the laptop? I know its onboard graphics is also a nvidia geforce... not 9100 but something else. It might be possible... but I need to look at the specs.
I'm not buying a new PC, just to let you know. While it seems I cannot play certain games like starcraft or league or warcraft, the fact of the matter is I can still use the internet and other things. Maybe a separate gaming laptop if I can get one cheap(doubt it) because my job doesn't pay too well.(long story)
I will edit my post later when I get a chance to go on my laptop, or just make a new post if someone else has something to say. Thanks for that info star, I really do appreciate it.
You won't be able to use a PC GPU in a laptop if that is what you are suggesting..
Cheapest solution I can think of is to upgrade your power supply unit and put your card back in. Power supply units are not expensive, especially for what you will need with that system and graphics card. If the card is still functioning okay, you will be up and running in no time. If you have a buddy with a system you could try the card out in..or a local computer store that will test it out for you, you might be good to go. I'll look up some stuff and get back.
$139 on Newegg (very reputable site if you haven't heard of it..)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125412&nm_mc=KN...
Only MMO reference I could find on performance was that it will run Cataclysm on High/ultrahigh (from Nvidia's site)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-460/performance...
Keep in mind you would need a new PSU and I have no idea if this would be compatible with your motherboard, and even if it was, if its performance would be bottlenecked by your CPU or your motherboard. I would have to look closer at specs. etc. Just thought you might want to see this for reference. There are cards that will run GW2 decently for not too much money.
If i can't use my card for my laptop, then maybe I'm just better off buying a separate gaming laptop.
Its just, when I open my own computer, its like walking into a mine field with a narrow escape path. If I'm careful enough I can make it through, but one wrong turn and bam. I felt panicky enough putting the card in alone!
Also... its a personal story, but with my old computer, I made an oath. When my previous computer started dying, I tried to have it repaired. It managed to repair, but its lifespan only increased for like, one more month. I promised myself not to repeat my mistakes, which is why I think I should just leave my computer as it is. Its still running, I can use the important programs like microsoft word, internet, etc.
I have been searching for gaming laptops under 500$, and I've been seeing some good results. Of course, I plan to do much more research before I buy one. This also works because I don't have to make my other laptop gaming restricted. I'll have one for gaming, the other for work or personal joy outside of gaming. And, of course, i'll have this pc.
...But i'm still curious if my laptop's card is better than the geforce 9100. I'm coming home soon, so I'll be able to turn it on and check.
I didn't know you could get a gaming laptop for $500 dollars. You may be better off spending that $500 on a pc. Typically laptops cost more than a desktop for the same performance.
This is the information for my laptop. If you think this can run guild wars better than my PC, let me know.
Minimum
CPU
Minimum: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz, Core i3, AMD Athlon 64 X2 or better
You Have: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz
PASS Click here for the latest CPU drivers.
CPU Speed
Minimum: Info
You Have: 2.1 GHz
RAM
Minimum: 2 GB
You Have: 3.9 GB
PASS
OS
Minimum: Windows XP Service Pack 2 or better
You Have: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit
PASS Click here for the latest Windows drivers.
Video Card
Minimum: NVIDIA GeForce 7800, ATI Radeon X1800, Intel HD 3000 or better (256 MB of video RAM and shader model 3.0 or better)
You Have: Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Upgrade Suggested: Unfortunately, your Video Card does not meet this requirement. Click here to see some recommendations. Click here for the latest Video drivers.
Features: Minimum attributes of your Video Card
Required You Have
Pixel Shader version 3.0 4.0
Vertex Shader version 3.0 4.0
Dedicated Video RAM 256 MB 64 MB
Sound Card
Minimum: Yes
You Have: Realtek High Definition Audio
PASS Click here for the latest Sound Card drivers.
Free Disk Space
Minimum: 25 GB
You Have: 401.8 GB
PASS
It's all their but the video. I'd look at what it would cost to upgrade the card/video chip on your laptop. I would take that list of minimun spec cards to a local computer shop and ask them what you could put in your laptop that would be better than those and still not be bottlenecked by your CPU or your frontside bus. Because your CPU is on the low end, I would definitely get as fast a GPU as you can, while not being bottlenecked by the speed of the CPU.
Alternatively, there is this forum:
http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/index.php
If you go to their "help me build my build" sub-forum you can get some very good help/suggestions from people that build computers a lot. I have never had any problems with people being jerks or judgmental there. Just be as specific as possible in your posts. I built my first ever gaming rig based off of recommendations and help from people on this forum and I was not steered wrong.
For reference: I am playing the game with a core2 duo 3.0 ghz which is just above the minimum. I am using only 2 gb of ram and win home 32 bit. My graphics card is a GTX 280, which according to A-Net's original chart was supposed to play the game at High settings. I can play at high settings running around with a group of friends in PvE, but when there are large WvW zergs or events with tons of NPC's and players in PvE I have to turn everything down to default low settings to get smoothish play.
1) To test if the problem is your motherboard: first make sure you touch the frame of the PC before you touch anything inside so you discharge any static electricity in your hands, then while the computer is off remove your RAM. Then turn the PC on. If you hear continuous beeping then your mobo is fine and you can put the RAM back in, once the power is off of course.
2) Are you having any problems with your CMOS battery? If so you'll potentially get any number of indications such as the computer losing the time and date settings, or messages like: "CMOS Read Error," "CMOS checksum error," "load optimized defaults?" or "Boot sector not found." This can be fixed by simply replacing the battery, which is an ordinary kind of battery you can buy just about anywhere. If it is the CMOS battery & it's finally died, it can cause problems like you're describing.
3) Finally, it may be the PSU though it's hard to say without testing it somehow. 300w is the minimum recommended so it is possible the strain may have finally been too much for the power supply.
I know this has to be eating away at you with the release date drawing closer, but one way or another I'm sure you'll get find a cheap & simple enough solution in time.
Thanks oni, i made a post att he link star gave, but its one of those lame ones where you need to wait for a mod's approval to have the topic posted. Ugh, I did this around morning and it still hasn't been posted.
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Also, I really never got any of those sort of errors, just the one I mentioned about the monitor failing to recieve the signal.
Hmm, I can't remember having to do that, but it's been a while since I first registered there. It will be worth the wait, as that forum typically has people with lots of computer building experience.
well I'm back from vacation and my post STILL isn't there. I honestly despise forums like this that need mod permission to post. WHAT'S THE POINT IF THE MOD IS A LAZY GOOD FOR NOTHING?
I tried posting a new thread in the free clinic, hoping this one will get through, but seriously, this whole approval thing is BS. Whoever came up with it should be shot.
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alright so i learned my laptop card is ingrated to the motherboard, so its pointless to try. Heck i can't even download the setup for gw2's beta for some reason. Its weird because it let me do it with my PC even though that was before I used the new graphics card i had for it.
Yeah, an expensive gaming laptop would allow for switching things out more, but budget stuff is going to be integrated. I did find some 'gaming' PC's for a bit over $500.00, but the graphics cards in them were very weak. One did have an i5 cpu however.
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